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  CSPAN    Capitol Hill Hearings    News/Business.  

    March 13, 2013
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and civilians. with a specific reference to cyber , at the end overp your testimony and this is general kehler's testimony but i'm sure it is something that general alexander resonates with as well. to operate effectively in cyberspace requires investment five major areas. the most urgent of these the most urgent investment is increasing the numbers, training, and readiness of our cyber forces. it is about personnel and the choices people are making about their future. it strikes me -- i would like to
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hear you talk about this a bit more. senator blunt raised it. it strikes me that you have two issues of concern. you are trying to grow a cyber talent pool within dod. the first is the competition from the outside world, which a salary and benefit standpoint, i would imagine for these professionals can be intense. the second is a fiscal uncertainty that people would have if they chose the path of public service, what with a face in terms of furloughs or pay cuts or pay freezes? what is the commitment we have? i would like to hear you talk about how you deal with the recruiting and retention in this environment when you not only have a little uncertainty but a tough economic competitors and the private sector and fiscal uncertainty as well. >> i would only add a couple of remarks. he have the most magnificent people of anywhere. they are the envy of every other military in the world. they are like that for a reason. they are talented. they are very patriotic. normally i do not worry much about them. other than to make sure that i am doing everything i can to take care of them and make sure that they will be there and that we are taking care of them and their families. it has been a challenge over the
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last 10 or 12 years with wounded and other things. as we look to the future here, what i am hearing from some of our folks is troubling. it gets back to uncertainty. we want the economy to get better. we will like it to be better soon, as fast as it can happen. when that happens, then this competition for our best and brightest talent will go up. in that environment, i am concerned that as they are weighing -- not the personal threats to themselves which they are willing to take -- but when they are weighing the financial certainty for their families that they will come down on a different side than government service.
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that is an important question. we have an all volunteer military. it has been stressed. this is another stressor. we need to be mindful of this because we are competing for the best talent. we have been getting it. there are magnificent people that raise their right hand, civilian, uniform, or whether they serve as contractors. it does not matter. they are all working hard to do the right things. it is preserving that. there is an impact here with what is going on. it is coming to our level. they are telling us there is an impact on them, and we need to be mindful of it. >> general alexander, could you comment? >> two broader areas -- i agree with everything that you read. it is 100% on track. we are impacted and cyber in the continuing resolution impacts our ability to train more. we need to do that. by singling out the civilian workforce for furloughs, we have done a grave injustice. we are trying to get people to
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come in and support us. in this technical area, people are leaving industry to work with us. now that they get there, they are saying, did i make the wrong decision? they are going to furlough me. i took a salary reduction to work for you. it is a great thing for our nation, but if this is the way it will be, i cannot afford to do this to my family. that is a big impact across our force. we should not do that. >> let me stay on cyber and moved to a related area that raised questions earlier. that is trying to pass the right kind of balanced cyber legislation. a lot of it is a dialogue between policymakers and the private sector. they have legitimate concerns. in your experience, has the private sector expressed those concerns in the right way? has it been a series of, don't do this to us? don't do that to us?and have they been offering ways that we can accomplish the goal in a productive and constructive way? if the answer is no, that might be something we could help with to smoke out the positives and
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constructive advice about how to balance some of these important considerations. >> the big problem is every sector approaches it different. what you get is 20 different views, groups of views, on cyber and cyber legislation, what we need and how we need to do it. the executive order will get industry to sit down with government officials, put the director in charge, bring all of our technical talent there. start talking with industry on the best way and bring that back up to the administration and say, here is what we think the way to work with industry to help make their networks more resilient. each part of our and destroy sectors are at different stakes of cyber readiness. that is the real problem that we face.
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you get from one side to the other. when you do that you see -- when you drill down, you see some of them need help and are concerned about regulation and how we do it. some do not need help and are concerned about the health we will give them. we need to address each of those concerns. the executive order is a great step in the right direction. >> are we all set? we want to thank you for your great service to our country. your great testimony this morning. thoughtful. we are very appreciative of it. we will stand adjourned. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013]
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>> budget committee chairman
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paul ryan lays out the 2014 budget plan. then senate leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell talk with reporters about their parties budget proposals. on the next "washington journal ," we talk with republican representative bill cassity, a member of the energy and progress committee about the health care law and jobs. representative when more is a member of the house budget committee. she will discuss the budget proposed by both parties. the national review senior editor will be here to look at what's america's republicans. "washington journal" is live on c-span everyday at 7:00 a.m. eastern.
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>> when it comes to the secretary of state and the people around her, what i found striking is her ability to stay focused. at all times as much as possible on what is happening. she does not get distracted by the details if they are not important. she has an ability to stay focused on the big picture. how is what is happening in afghanistan impacting what they are doing in the middle east? how was that impacting what they are trying to do in asia? she had a sense of the strategy. she is surrounded by people helping her. she has staff to allow her -- i talk about that. that allows her to focus on what matters. she does not have to worry about lunch. it was just arrived. she will happened while she is thinking about the bigger picture. kim ghattas looks at hillary
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clinton's tenure as secretary of state on afterwards so sunday at 9:00 p.m.. >> the house republicans 2014 budget man would allen seek federal budget in 10 years by reforming the tax code in medicare and repealing the president's health care law. budget committee chairman paul ryan spoke with reporters for a half an hour. >> good morning, everyone. what we have here is the house budget committee republican majority. putting out yet again a budget that it just is america's needs, a budget that balances. it is a responsible, balanced budget. we owe the american people a balanced budget. or the third straight year, we have a limited. we have balance a budget in just 10 years. this is a plan to balance the
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budget in 10 years. the house budget committee has spent the last several weeks working together with each other just like families and businesses do around the country. we have been assembling a budget so that we can make sure our country can live within its means. it is a reasonable goal, balancing the budget. we cannot keep spending money we do not have. that is the basic acknowledgment and you are budgeting. just like families and businesses, you cannot keep kicking the can down the road. medicare is jeopardizing the health for millions of american seniors. we foster healthier economy that can create jobs and grow more wages. balancing the budget is not simply an act of arithmetic.
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it is not just getting expenditures and revenues to add up. it is a means to healthier economy. a progrowth economy that delivers opportunity. that is why we are doing this. let me walk through a few. there we go. here is what we begin with. this budget cut spending by 4.6 trillion dollars over the next 10 years. we have paid a little less than 1/5 of her income to the federal government, but the government has spent a lot more. we match revenues with expenditures. our budget matches the spending with our income just like every family and business must do throughout america. in fact, we bring our deficits down right away. this shows you how our differences after goes down to the point where we end up with a surplus in 2023. in the 1990s, the democratic president work with a republican congress to balance the budget.
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this is the goal that both parties have been able to achieve in the past. it is something we ought to do again. number three, this is a picture that should scare everyone. this is a picture that shows you the path we are on today. we know without a shred of doubt that we are consigning the next generation to an inferior standard of living. that crisis hurts everyone. the people are hurts the most of the poor, the elderly. what are we doing? we are addressing the most predictable economic crisis in our history. the red line shows you the path that this country is on right now. the green line shows you the
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path we achieve by putting this budget into law. we will be able to pay off our debt. doing that helps grow the economy as well. i would like to turn over to one of the distinguished members of the finance committee. please know that by balancing the budget, we grow the economy. by including progrowth reforms like tax reform, we are making it easier for businesses to plan, invest, and be competitive. we want more jobs, higher wages, families getting into the middle class. that is one of the cornerstone policies we have. let me turn over to diane to explain what we are doing. >> thank you, mr. chairman. our budget has opportunity to change the course of our nation. we have a responsibility to avoid the debt crisis that the chairman has said and to move forward with a prosperous future. common sense and math tell us
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that balancing a budget requires two things -- cutting spending and economic growth. the tax code today is nearly 4 million words long and about 60% of our taxpayers need to hire professionals to help them prepare their returns. every year americans spent 6 million hours and a lot of money filling out their returns. clearly something is wrong. our budget reaffirms that the ways and means committee will pass comprehensive, progrowth legislation this year. this budget builds on bipartisan consensus in favor of lowering the rates to create jobs and broadening the base to ensure fairness and simplicity for our families.
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the purpose of tax reform is not to take more money from our families to spend more money in washington. it is to create jobs and to increase the wages for working families. i look forward to working with budget members and also the ways and means committee to examine comprehensive tax reform this year to help strengthen the economy, reduce the deficit, and get americans back to work. thank you. >> at this time, i would like to turn the podium over to the vice chairman of the budget committee. >> thank you. budgets are about priorities. the priorities of the american people support getting federal spending under control, getting the economy moving again so folks can get back to work, and
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getting the debt crisis under control so we can per serve the american dream for future generations. this budget is the way to responsible, balanced budget. the federal government should not spend more than it takes in. we agree. budgets proposed by president obama have never, ever gotten into balance. the legal deadline for him to present his budget to commerce this year was february 4. it is now march 12. past experience us that when he does bring in his budget on the that one will not balance. americans family cannot live this way, and neither should the federal government. republicans believe that people were too hard to have the federal government take more of their money to spend more in washington.
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we want the american people to keep more of their hard-earned money to save and spend as they see fit. senate democrats have not adopted a budget in nearly four years. they'll do one this year because of the no budget, no pay act that was passed earlier this year. they continue to say we need more taxes, but they cannot -- but the truth is they cannot tax american people enough to pay for the spending that they want. the next test will be whether they can pass a budget that they introduced. below in a senate democrats be willing to endorse a plan that taxes more so that washington can spend more? that is not working. american people are sick in tired of the games. our plan, the house republican budget, puts a stop to that. that way they use tax care dollars in an accountable way. will the white house and senate democrats be able to say the same thing about their budgets? will we see more gimmicks and
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wasteful spending? this path to prosperity, this budget, will create a healthier economy or job creators are hiring, job seekers are finding more jobs, and more american families and entrepreneurs are realizing their dreams. this path to prosperity ensures we are honoring the commitments that americans see as a priority. this budget cares for the poor and fixes the american safety net programs and expense economic opportunity. his budget will protect those programs while we control spending and solve the issue's debt crisis. our hope is that democrats see these as vital programs and something they want to save and strengthen not demagogue.
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we believe in the industriousness and ingenuity of american dreams. thank you. >> thank you. this is not only a responsible balanced plan, but also an invitation. it is an invitation to the president of united states and the senate democrats to come together to fix these problems. we do not think it is fair to let medicare go bankrupt. it is not fair to take more from hard-working families to spend more in washington. the most important question is not how to budget, but why. it is for the well-being of the american people. balanced budget will help provide economic security we need and help secure retirement for seniors and will help expand opportunities for young people looking for careers and jobs in the stagnant economy.
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final point -- we want to revive the budget process so we can have regular order. what does that mean? that means let's do our jobs. that means we want to pass a budget in the house. we are pleased the senate is going to pass a budget or lease attempt to pass a budget. that means we are reviving a process that is not in the back room, but shows how we will accomplish these goals. we want to revive this budget process so i the end of the day, we can have a vehicle to get something done. i do not think the president disagrees with that. this is an invitation to show us how to bounce a budget. are we going to be complicit with never balancing the budget? are we going to guarantee an inferior standard of living for the next generation? this is a plan to show us how to get things under control. it is our vision for a progrowth
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society. the final point is this -- for far too long we have measured success of our efforts by inputs of how much we are spending on programs rather than measuring success by outputs of how it is working. we have put so much money into our welfare programs, but we have millions of people living in poverty. some of the highest rates in a generation. rather than measuring how much money we are spending in these row grams, let's measure whether we are helping people and getting them out of poverty and back on their feet. these are the kinds of questions we are tackling in this budget. as we do this, we are showing the country a plan to balance the budget and grow the economy to get people out of poverty and get the american dream reignited.
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questions. >> you spent time on the campaign trail arguing against taxes. in this budget, you say that you balance in 10 years by using $600 billion in new taxes that you opposed. isn't that disingenuous? >> not at all. what we are showing is that with everything that has occurred in the past, what we're saying is to replace this anti-growth tax code, this crony capitalism tax code with a progrowth tax system that helps families and businesses. get rid of the taxes to we have and replace it. lower tax rates and fewer loopholes. we can still balance a budget.
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we will not talk about the past. law is law. we know that will not change. we can balance the budget. we can do it faster. we want to do it the better tax code. >> but a key part of your budget is the affordable care act -- why go through this again? second, did you feel you have to include repeal of the affordable care act because it would not pass? >> let me go back. the fiscal cliff occurred, but we do not like the tax code it has produced. we are proposing a new tax code that is more progrowth. less take obamacare or example, the affordable health care act. we do not like this law.
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we want to repeal this in our budget. we believe that this law will collapse under its own weight. when americans see what this law entails, those of us who know what will happen, they will not like this law. we do not think we can afford to borrow trillions of dollars that this law until's. we can replace with a better healthcare system. that is something that we will be proposing. here is a better patient centered system to replace obamacare. it is consistent with everything we believe in. we think obamacare destroys the health care system. it will provide an inferior health care system. this to us is something we will not give up on because will not give up on destroying this.
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we want to prevent this law. it will do great damage to families. jonathan. >> a senator will probably be something offered to bounce the debt and gdp ratio. why is it important to reach balance are near balance versus getting the debt to stabilize? >> getting the debt to stabilize this not fix our problem. it is already too large. we need to bounce a budget and get the debt down. you cannot pay down the debt in a serious way to you balance a budget.
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we can show you this chart will be get the debt under control. the problem is that the current high levels of debt we have today are a threat to our economy. it guarantees it will destroy the next future for the generation. making it look a little less bad is not a budget. the senate democrats and to be going down that path. >> how will you balance things under your plan? >> there are broken promises that were approved. americans will find a rude awakening. remember when obama said that there be lower healthcare costs? it has been going up since obamacare past. remember when he said it would
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be done in the open? it was a closed room deal. you'll see substandard health care. you will see young people not wanting to go into the field of because of obamacare. we believe that in the interest of healthcare for families and making medicare work better for low income people, we need to repeal and replace obamacare with that are system. we will never balance a budget if you keep obamacare going. it is a fiscal train wreck. >> you said that there was millions funneled out of healthcare by president obama all to pay for an entitlement we did not ask for. you count that in your budget. you count savings from the
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fiscal deal as part of deficit reduction. so isn't that going against everything your conference stands for? isn't out of the white house? >> we believe we can still have a progrowth tax code. that is why we are saying to the president and the democrats who want to continue raising taxes to spend money in washington, you will destroy tax reform if you do that. we can still have a very good, family growing, pro-tax reform. let me make it clear -- this budget has stopped the rate of medicare. president obama took money from medicare to spend on creating obamacare. we end that and make sure all of that was back to healthcare.
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we are concerned about some of the provider networks. we are concerned about some issues that might arise. we have a special fund, a procedure to address any inadequacies we might have in the medicare provider system if the situations arise. every penny of medicare should go to medicare. if we find that there's a problem that needs addressing, we we have a special procedure to do that. >> people outside this process might look at this press conference today that is similar to last year where you stood there and we stood here. [laughter] people outside this process might be watching today and saying, well, ryan did this last year. >> and the year before that. >> indeed. he was on this ticket. president obama ran on what he
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calls the balanced approach. raising taxes on wealthy and his medicare position. he won that election. house republicans lost some seats in the house. senate republicans lost seats in the senate. people outside this process might wonder if elections have consequences on the budget process. do they? >> the election did not go our way. believe me, i know what that feels like. look, whether the country intended it or not, we have a divided government. we have the second largest majority in house since world war ii. we need to put out our vision. we owe the country abounds budget.
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we of the country solutions to the biggest problems that are plaguing our nation. a debt crisis is on the horizon. a slow growing economy. people trapped in poverty. we are showing our answers. we are in the majority. the president won reelection. this is our offer. this is our vision. what you do is show the country what you believe in. the senate has not passed a budget in four years. despite the fact the law requires them to do so every year. because of the no budget, no pay act, they are finally doing a budget. that is good. i am encourage about that. if they can pass a bud t gets us going down the path of solving problems. let's get a down payment on the problem. will the president take every one of the solutions?
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probably not. did we win these arguments in that campaign trail? what we are saying is here is our offer. here is how we propose a plan that is a balance budget to grow the economy and repair the safety net and save medicare. we hope the senate will follow suit and show their vision. they need to put their plan on the table, and that we can start looking for common ground. that is a constructive way forward. >> you want to get down to two tax brackets -- 10% and 25%. what do say to the argument that in order to do that, you have to to go after middle-class tax break like mortgage rate interest and charitable donations and the healthcare exclusion.
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>> yes, sir. this is what the ways and means committee will do. the ways and means committee has working groups and is doing hearing after hearing going through the tax code and trying to figure out a better tax system. our goal is to have a two bracket system that is progrowth. that means maintaining important loopholes for middle income taxpayers. i would also argue that those who think we need to keep raising taxes on higher income people, there are different ways of doing this. you can plug loopholes and subject higher income earners to a higher tax rate. 8 out of 10 businesses in america are not corporations. they are businesses owned by regular people. last year, canada lower their tax rate on all businesses to 15%. the top tax rate on ours is 44.8%. how can you compete and your
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competitors are taxing their businesses at much lower tax rates than we are taxing hours? we think the current tax code destroying jobs. it makes american business is much less competitive. that is why the ways and means committee wants to get more people working again. >> is that a shift in approach? >> our approach reflects exactly what the president's joint chiefs season minimum levels necessary to fund the mission for the pentagon. this is our first priority -- national defense. we're funding at the levels the joint chiefs say is necessary to maintain national security. >> you're talking about how the fiscal cliff deal and other improvements major job easier,
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but you still have to take steps to get a balance. what are those steps? >> one is a budget control act. we extend the budget control act. we also want to extend reforms on the public workforce on federal employees to include all federal employees so that their pension contribution matches those that are in the private sector. we do not think federal employees should be able to have pension systems that are far in excess to what the private sector counterparts get. doing those things makes it easier to approach a bounce budget. we have always produced a budget in the past. it has taken a little bit of a longer time. we have got to close. that gets us closer to balancing the budget by the end of the budget window. now that we know it is easier to balance a budget, we should not drop the ball on balancing the
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budget. the president and the democrats should join us. it is an invitation to balance the budget. balancing the budget helps our economy. it gives us a healthy economy and a progrowth economy. this is a goal we should all have. thank you. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> president obama met with senate democrats to discuss issues including the budget. party leaders spoke with reporters about their differing budget proposals.
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>> we are seeing a contrast. the present -- the president is reaching out to republicans. and the senate, we are working out a bill to advance a compromise that will protect middle-class families. tomorrow, senator murray will introduce her bill that represent a balanced approach to what we need to do with the economy. on the other side, house republicans are moving further away from a compromise. house republicans are advancing the ryan republican budget that is more extreme and propaganda that we have seen in the past. the ryan republican budget slices critical programs and set of asking the wealthiest to
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pay more. he is going after education, healthcare, research, prisoner preventative health, and much more. instead of ending whistle corporate tax loopholes, their budget and medicare. our economy is poised to grow. february was the strongest month of job growth we have seen in many years. the republican brand of austerity could reverse the progress. we need to reduce our deficit, but we need to do it in a smart way to combine spending cuts, closing wasteful tax loopholes. the american people do not want us to retreat into our corners. they want us to find common ground to find solutions to the challenges we face. it is too bad that the republicans are moving further
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to the right when we taught they could not. [indiscernible] >> that the ryan budget make it harder for you guys to move anywhere near their direction? >> i do not follow your question. as[indiscernible] you describe the budget as extreme. does it make it harder for you to negotiate? what there is no way to negotiate if it is a one-sided negotiation. the republicans are unwilling to do anything such as revenue and because of that there is no conversation going on with the president. >> are you open to changes to
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social security? >> here is the issue -- the president has had negotiations with gainers, i know with cantor.-- boehner with the republicans take these things that are talked about in abstract and say that is what we have agreed to. we have not agreed. >> [indiscernible] >> i will not get into what she will do. you have to ask her. hers is a balanced plan equal cut. >> [indiscernible]
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>> we are confident in dodd- frank being implemented more quickly than you think. it is going forward. there is no question that on obamacare, the parties being held and exchanges created and next we will have the invitation to join the party we are in. [indiscernible] >> i do not know all of the. this is a new era of let us get along. all of this cheering about this bipartisan bill, i learned that coburn will not let us move the bill. unless something happens in that regard, we will have to use the new rules we have where mcconnell and i can move forward.
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[indiscernible] >> i heard about the sea are a few minutes and i were caucus. -- cr a few minutes ago and i were caucus. [indiscernible] >> the one that has put up millions of dollars to move this forward responded to them. it is more of the tea party nonsense. can you imagine anyone opposing a high-speed rail? we have a difficult getting people back and forth from southern california and seven nevada. it is not just to watch shows in las vegas. it is commerce, trust, caring
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products that need to be carried across the country. there are high-speed rails, the president likes it. that is something we should do. that is nonsense to hear from the budget chairs who want to go back to the dark ages. thanks, everybody. you wil >> good afternoon, everyone. we're looking forward to having the president up on thursday to meet with our group. i think given the fact that we are going into budget week with both the democrats and republicans laying out the budgets that will be on the floors of the house and senate next week, it is notable to
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point out the president's budget will come up after both the house and the senate have voted. i hope that is not a reflection of a lack of seriousness, but it is beyond tardy. with regard to what we are doing this week, the first amendment on the republican side will be an amendment by senator cruz. the economy needs to get back on track. with regard to what a lot of you have described as a president's charm offensive, we welcome it. members went to dinner with him last week. it was excellent. i told the president on friday i hope you will invite all of our members down for the smaller dinners. it would be a good opportunity to have a candid conversation.
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we know with his request to raise the debt ceiling again later this summer, we will be discussing again the possibility of finally solving our huge deficit and debt problem by making the kind of changes to the entitlement side that we now we have to make if we are going to save these programs and save our country. >> [inaudible] >> not since for a long time has the president failed to submit a proposed budget to the united states congress except for the current occupant in the white house who has missed that deadline four times out of five. if there is a better way to bring yourself irrelevant to the debate on the most important issue facing our country today, that might well be have taken the cake. the president's budget will not get here until after the house
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and the senate have passed their own budgets. if the president wants to be constructive and have to suggestions on how to put the budget in balance, he would send our budget that his budget in before the house and the senate passes their own budgets. that might be the reason we find ourselves $16.5 trillion in debt and on the cusp of a potential fiscal crisis. the president has shown no leadership on this. he seems insistent on leading from behind. >> [inaudible] >> as my colleague said, this is budget week in the senate. the question we ought to ask in budget week is what will this budget do to result in economic growth? how will it grow the economy? that is a question that ought to be asked of every budget
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proposal that is out there. the house of representatives is in the process of doing their budget. senate democrats are doing theirs over here. look at the last four years. the obama administration has put in place higher taxes and massive amounts of debt and burdensome regulations that make it more expensive for job creators to create jobs and have resulted in sluggish economic growth. for the past four years, 0.8% growth is what we have seen under this administration. you would hope that the democrats would be preparing the budget and looking at policies that will grow the economy. what we're hearing is that it will be more of the same. we are talking about trillion dollar tax increase and more spending and nothing to save social security and medicare by reforming those programs in a way that will align them with the future demographics of this country. it is more of the same policies
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with regards to their budget. we think there is a better way. we will look for opportunities to offer amendments that will point that out. bottom line, the democrat budget as we know it today is going to hurt jobs, the economy, and make it difficult for job creators to get americans back to work. that should be the fundamental question we ask about the budget process as we enter next week. >> there's a front-page story today in one of the papers on the hill that talked about a number of democrats who are now griping about the president's health care law. these washington democrats go to their homes and talk to folks and are realizing that the health care law is bad for patients and their providers and nurses who take care of those patients. it is terrible for taxpayers. there are now one trillion new taxes on hard-working americans as a result of the health care law. it is hurting our country.
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the fed reserve and their beige books came out with a report last week. people are being laid off and decisions are being held off to hire. if the business grows to over 50 employees, they have to start paying large fines. they decide full-time employees for 30 hours a week. more businesses are only hiring at 29 hours or fewer so they are not considered as full-time. even the fed reserve says the
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president's health care law is hurting the economy. we are dealing with a budget when there is no better time to repeal the president's health care lots of people can get what they want, which is care they need from a doctor they choose at lower costs. >> on the budget, four years is a long time not to show up for work. it is a long time not to do your job. it is hard to imagine. this must be a budgetary masterpiece if it has taken or years to put budget on paper. we will look for to seeing that budget and hearing a debate on it and finding out how much is fact and how much is fiction. there is a big gap to fill. >> all of the democrats can come up for a budget is $1 trillion increase in taxes. we'll find out which members of
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the united states senate are for balancing budgets, which ones are for continued irresponsibility, which ones want to rein in government spending, and which ones want to increase the deficit. it will make clear which members of the united states senate want to create jobs and which want to continue to rely upon government handouts. democrats will have the opportunity to explain to their voters why in four years the only solution they have for our fiscal problems are to raise taxes and increase spending and to do nothing to create a path for a bounce budget. >> on a positive note, we are going to do a budget. i can tell you that this has been a top priority. when i go home to new hampshire
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and talking with people, i think it is positive that the senate democrats have committed to submitting a budget. on a negative note, from what has been released about their budget so far, they have indicated they will increase taxes by $1 trillion. i look at this carefully. i hope it is not true, but when trillion dollars tax increase without balancing the budget in a 10 year window and without saving the entitlement programs for seniors out there. social security would go bankrupt in 2033. it would increase taxes by one trillion dollars that would not pay for programs. this is a time when we need much longer economic growth.
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i'm hearing from small businesses that they cannot afford the health care costs that are going up because of obamacare. they are having a hard time. they want to grow businesses, but please, do not increase taxes again. i have been hearing from the regulatory framework. if there is when trillion dollars of tax increase for the democrats, what would that do for businesses in terms of trying to grow the economy? the one way we can have the most dramatic impact on our debt is to grow the economy. i was disturbed by the president's decision to close guantanamo bay and bringing osama bin laden's son-in-law to america. i want to ask how much we spent
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to ask him about al qaeda. i think this is a very important issue that the american people need to be aware of. we need to gather intelligence and prevent future attacks on our country. by the way, what was he doing in iran? we would like to get answers on that as well. thank you. questions. >> [inaudible] >> well, until we make our entitlement programs that the
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demographics of our country, you cannot save the healthcare system system and you cannot save america. we know the revenue side is completely irrelevant to solving this problem. we gave the president $650 billion or so in taxes by the expiration of the law and now we need to deal with a spending problem. we are doing part of it on the discretionary side and the c.r. will reflect that number. the second part is to deal with where there is a huge dachshund are huge expenses, and that is on the entitlement side. there is -- where there are huge expenses, and that is on the entitlement side. whenever the president is willing to have that discussion, we are ready to have it.
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>> the president will be talking about grand bargain. how much do you expect to talk about other topics? immigration, guns? >> the c.r. will be open for amendment and the budget on a which will have 20 of amendments. we anticipate that the request to raise the debt ceiling will generate another discussion about solving the real problem. the only way to help america is to fix entitlement issue. nothing else will get the job done. we are hopeful that he will be willing to step up with us and solve that problem. we are ready to talk about that. outreach is a good thing. i'm all for it. i have recommended to him that he had the rest of our members
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down in small dinners. reports were that it was a candid and fruitful discussion. i think having more of that rather than less of that is a good idea. thank you. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> the house budget committee will markup paul ryan's 2014 budget proposal at 10:30 a.m. eastern on c-span three. president obama returns to capitol hill to meet with house republicans today and with senate republicans on thursday. friday, mr. obama travels to the argonne national laboratory near chicago. it is one of the energy department's largest laboratories for research staff by more than 1000 scientists and
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engineers. in a few moments, a look at today's headlines and your phone calls live on "washington journal." the house will be in session at 10:00 a.m. today's agenda includes a bill that will prohibit the obama installation does obama administration involving work programs. bill cassidy of louisiana will talk about the affect of the healthcare law on jobs. representative when more -- when more is a member of the house budget committee. she will discuss a bud

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